Hi, sorry for the late reply. I enjoyed the subject, but your wording made it sound like "full" animation is inherently restrictive. I can think of many examples where that isn't the case but really I don't see why drawing on 1s or 2s is lowkey seen as a bad thing.
Hey Kenneth! Glad you enjoyed. As for "full" animation, we don't have any issue with it at all -- a lot of films we love (like The Incredibles) are animated entirely on 1s. We find The Thief and the Cobbler's animation, with its heavily reliance on 1s interspersed with 2s, mesmerizing.
Our goal was to defend against the claim made by some folks, like Richard Williams himself, that limited animation is subpar animation. We hear it a lot even today. So, we focused on the strengths of limited animation -- its vast range, its abstract and imaginative power, etc.
"Full" animation has its own strengths. When it's done well, it can be truly hypnotic and create the illusion of life. Limited animation often feels like you're looking at drawings that move. So-called full animation can feel, sometimes, like you're looking at a living, breathing thing. We see them as different toolkits that each have their upsides.
Thanks for replying. I mean, I would argue full animation has just as much potential for abstraction and imagination, drawings that can move in ways no real thing can. It's just that no one has ever thought to try it and far too many people are hooked onto that "illusion of life" approach. 1s is literally a new frame every drawing, I mean come on.
That's why concepts like "frame rate modulation" fascinate me. I'm not currently studying animation (yet) but your stuff, Animetudes and tamerlane really inquire me to look into Japanese (and American) animation more than just the mainstream.
Glad to hear that we've helped to inspire you! You're right that there's still a lot that hasn't been done in animation, or at least attempted in a major project. If you do study animation, we wish you the best in exploring new styles and techniques!
Thank you for the encouragement. What I need is a good school and a strong state of mind. The last thing I want is for me to become yet another "animation hipster" so to speak.
Enjoyed this issue as usual, thank you. Still chewing on "Unlimited Animation," a lot there.
A quick comment on news of a Korean animated feature—I'm not sure if I've ever seen one before. I'm Korean-American and was so excited to see your mention of Tae-Il. Of course, not surprised it seems quite intense, dark even. I'm now inspired to dig further into animation from Korea, and festivals there like the one in Busan.
And on the retro-ad: I think I've said something along these lines before—but have commercial advertising just gotten exponentially more conventional in past decades? That Levi's ad! I can't imagine a big company like Nike or Lay's doing something like this now—granted, I suppose the audience for Levi's might be more open to something more abstract or "weird' that doesn't rely on comedy. Honestly I can't see Levi's doing something like this today, either.
Thank you! Glad you liked it. And yeah, it's great to see a Korean feature on the way -- they've been pretty few and far between in recent years! This one really looks like a film to keep an eye on.
As for the retro ad, you're definitely right. It's so rare to see TV ads in America that push the envelope in this way anymore. Maybe it's the bottom falling out of TV budgets thanks to streaming, or maybe these ads ultimately didn't move as much product as the safer, more boring ones. Either way, it's a shame to lose this level of creativity.
Hi, sorry for the late reply. I enjoyed the subject, but your wording made it sound like "full" animation is inherently restrictive. I can think of many examples where that isn't the case but really I don't see why drawing on 1s or 2s is lowkey seen as a bad thing.
Hey Kenneth! Glad you enjoyed. As for "full" animation, we don't have any issue with it at all -- a lot of films we love (like The Incredibles) are animated entirely on 1s. We find The Thief and the Cobbler's animation, with its heavily reliance on 1s interspersed with 2s, mesmerizing.
Our goal was to defend against the claim made by some folks, like Richard Williams himself, that limited animation is subpar animation. We hear it a lot even today. So, we focused on the strengths of limited animation -- its vast range, its abstract and imaginative power, etc.
"Full" animation has its own strengths. When it's done well, it can be truly hypnotic and create the illusion of life. Limited animation often feels like you're looking at drawings that move. So-called full animation can feel, sometimes, like you're looking at a living, breathing thing. We see them as different toolkits that each have their upsides.
Thanks for your comment!
Thanks for replying. I mean, I would argue full animation has just as much potential for abstraction and imagination, drawings that can move in ways no real thing can. It's just that no one has ever thought to try it and far too many people are hooked onto that "illusion of life" approach. 1s is literally a new frame every drawing, I mean come on.
That's why concepts like "frame rate modulation" fascinate me. I'm not currently studying animation (yet) but your stuff, Animetudes and tamerlane really inquire me to look into Japanese (and American) animation more than just the mainstream.
Glad to hear that we've helped to inspire you! You're right that there's still a lot that hasn't been done in animation, or at least attempted in a major project. If you do study animation, we wish you the best in exploring new styles and techniques!
Thank you for the encouragement. What I need is a good school and a strong state of mind. The last thing I want is for me to become yet another "animation hipster" so to speak.
Enjoyed this issue as usual, thank you. Still chewing on "Unlimited Animation," a lot there.
A quick comment on news of a Korean animated feature—I'm not sure if I've ever seen one before. I'm Korean-American and was so excited to see your mention of Tae-Il. Of course, not surprised it seems quite intense, dark even. I'm now inspired to dig further into animation from Korea, and festivals there like the one in Busan.
And on the retro-ad: I think I've said something along these lines before—but have commercial advertising just gotten exponentially more conventional in past decades? That Levi's ad! I can't imagine a big company like Nike or Lay's doing something like this now—granted, I suppose the audience for Levi's might be more open to something more abstract or "weird' that doesn't rely on comedy. Honestly I can't see Levi's doing something like this today, either.
Thank you! Glad you liked it. And yeah, it's great to see a Korean feature on the way -- they've been pretty few and far between in recent years! This one really looks like a film to keep an eye on.
As for the retro ad, you're definitely right. It's so rare to see TV ads in America that push the envelope in this way anymore. Maybe it's the bottom falling out of TV budgets thanks to streaming, or maybe these ads ultimately didn't move as much product as the safer, more boring ones. Either way, it's a shame to lose this level of creativity.
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